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Red Line Policies
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07/18/2024 09:29 AM
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Hey all, I tend to remember to sign on to TTOL the week before my BVI charter... in this case it's this Saturday, and my last one was 2019 (gasp!) Glad to see this site's still standing!! ![smile smile](/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) I booked this charter (July 21-27) without thinking, and it's right on top of Christmas in July. My family of four tends to value seclusion over party atmosphere... any idea where the least crowds might be and what specific days things heat up or cool down? I also understand much of the festivity is this weekend, so one of my main questions is, when sailing from Road Town on Sunday at noon, where to head for the first night where I'll still find a FCFS ball? Thanks! -dan
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Re: Red Line Policies
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07/19/2024 12:03 PM
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Anchoring in Eustatia is banned I believe by all charter companies. I don't think The Moorings bans it. They mark it as not covered by your insurance - just like they do for Anegada - but it didn't look to me like it was actually banned. I tried to get them to tell me where I couldn't go and never got a clear answer. I didn't go there this last trip but I was thinking about it and was thinking about it a little more for our next.
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Re: Red Line Policies
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07/19/2024 07:52 PM
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We anchored off Prickly Pear to the left of Sandbox, west side last week. The oddest thing happened. The anchor STUCK. We dove the anchor to find it was a 4 ft metal pole sticking out of sand about 12 ft deep. It was about 25 ft off the beach. Have no idea what that pole was for but we picked up the anchor and moved further left
So watch out for the pole!
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Re: Red Line Policies
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07/19/2024 10:23 PM
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The Moorings allows Anegada. They will not however provide chase services out there.
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Re: Red Line Policies
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07/19/2024 11:53 PM
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We anchored off Prickly Pear to the left of Sandbox, west side last week. The oddest thing happened. The anchor STUCK. We dove the anchor to find it was a 4 ft metal pole sticking out of sand about 12 ft deep. It was about 25 ft off the beach. Have no idea what that pole was for but we picked up the anchor and moved further left
So watch out for the pole! Yikes! Kinda hard to watch out for it…. But if it’s truly 25’ off the beach I’m guessing it’s not where I’d be dropping an anchor!
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Re: Red Line Policies
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07/21/2024 08:41 PM
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I positively despise the sheet that Moorings gives out (and now has people sign) because it is so vague and does not distinguish between destinations that everyone goes to (Anegada) and passages that nobody on a charter boat should take (Mosquito cut). No wonder people just ignore the whole thing. Also has really vague language "avoid the area...", etc. I really with they would re-work this, provide a chart overlay of red-lined areas, AIS warnings, etc. but I'm not holding my breath.
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Re: Red Line Policies
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07/22/2024 09:07 AM
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Excuse me if this is off topic, but shouldn't the new technologies permit the charter companies to monitor their boats, and therefore be specific about red-lined areas. Obviously in the old days they would tell you where you couldn't go, and unless you got in trouble, they wouldn't know. Now, they can know where all their boats are. So they could specify red-lined areas and send a text if someone goes there. With all the charter boats on the water, it would open up more areas.
This year I saw a charter boat with a "professional" captain moored on a professional dive boat day mooring for 18 hours. I called the manager of the charter company, who thanked me and said all their boats have trackers. At a minimum, technology can alert them to people who disregard the limits set.
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Re: Red Line Policies
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07/22/2024 01:36 PM
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For me the source is the Moorings BVI e-guide that you get after signing up for a charter (or at https://www.moorings.com/download-the-british-virgin-islands-eguide). One pages 26-27 there is a "Red Zones Map" with the wording I gave in my previous post. Strangely on page 48 of the same document it is said that Anegada is "Well worth the 11-mile sail from the North Sound,......" We have contacted Moorings by e-mail for clarification.
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Re: Red Line Policies
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07/22/2024 04:42 PM
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I do suspect I might know the reason for Anegada confusion. The Moorings redlines Anegada like most charter companies. They provide an exception however for the setting point anchorage. They even run flotillas there now and then.
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Re: Red Line Policies
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07/23/2024 01:46 PM
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The channel between Great and Little Camanoe is the preferred option and not red-lined.
This document badly needs to be re-worked into separate "Caution" and "Prohibited" zones.
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