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#319544 05/15/2024 06:15 AM
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Yesterday spent the day at Club O. Saw a large excavator clearing brush and loading onto a dump truck by Papagayo. It is my understanding the entire property will be demolished and hauled away over the next two weeks. That’s all I know.

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Yay. Please post pictures if you can.

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paul--thanks for the note. Any info on what will happen after that??


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Maybe my April fools thread needs to be reactivated

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It seems like you don't even know that! You seem to be speculating based on a short observation and possibly some discussion with someone who also is not knowledgeable about the situation.

There is another thread on TTOL where this was discussed (to which I also replied). It was also posted on Facebook earlier this week.

The Copropriété de la Baie Orientale (commonly known as "Club Orient") now has a court-appointed Administrator who is tasked with getting the Copropriété back operating smoothly. He also has the authority and obligation to respond to formal requests and orders such as that from the Prefecture regarding cleaning up areas of the property that are deemed to be dangerous. It is clear to anyone who has been there or seen photographs that Papagayo is slowly falling into the water and the rubble from the nearby chalets is also dangerous to beachgoers, especially those who trespass on the property.

Club Orient is a French Copropriété that owns the land. The Administrator does not have the authority to sell the property but, aside from that, has fairly wide-ranging authority to meet his mandate.

Any official news about the site will be posted on the ClubOrient.com website and the corresponding Facebook group. Neither has been updated in over 3 years but the information there is still valid (as far as I could tell).

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See the thread from yesterday. It has photos.

http://www.traveltalkonline.com/ubb...-installed-at-old-club-o.html#Post319479

Also more photos on the Facebook SXM Naturism page https://www.facebook.com/groups/303779880051035

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Originally Posted by JDK_Ontario
See the thread from yesterday. It has photos.

http://www.traveltalkonline.com/ubb...-installed-at-old-club-o.html#Post319479

Also more photos on the Facebook SXM Naturism page https://www.facebook.com/groups/303779880051035

The facebook group is PRIVATE, so, unless one is a member, then one cannot see anything. It is useless to post a link to a private facebook group.


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Two excavators taking down buildings today…

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Are you feeling left out? Private Facebook groups allow people to request to join them. And I suspect many people on the SXM TTOL group may already be in the SXM Naturism group (or may want to be).

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Originally Posted by JDK_Ontario

Are you feeling left out? Private Facebook groups allow people to request to join them. And I suspect many people on the SXM TTOL group may already be in the SXM Naturism group (or may want to be).


Not at all. Not everyone is on Facebook and even fewer are in private groups. Anyone can join but most cannot see this. No need for that attitude.


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* Wow, progress great to see. Even if it is safety driven, court ordered progress.

* A clean slate of sand might make it easier to envision some new buildings. I hope so.

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The word on the beach is this demolition is Papagayo and 4 beachfront chalets only.

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100% true that not everyone is on FB. I went on about 20 years ago at my son's urging. I have a few groups there and the largest, re: SXM, is private by intent (I don't want lurkers). It has over 40,000 people. Word gets around. TTOL is a very traditional discussion group and as far as I can see it works just fine.


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It will look nice all cleared out!! It seriously looks like Fort Apache the Bronx now and smells like it too!!


Sand Gravity, got to love it!
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Papagayo was flattened today…

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Wow. Necessary, but sad. Any pictures?


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Sad, but a good thing as it’s was a danger attracting danger. Hopefully the ocean/beach will reclaim that stretch. Same with the chalets. Hopefully this will lite a fire amongst those with money in the game to either rebuild or sell.

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Papagayo pics taken today

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I'm confused. Is the first picture taken several years ago?


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Let the taker comment, but I don’t think so. You can see the fence and the bldg in 1st picture is a chalet. The 2nd is a zoom in showing the flattened Papas. Still a lot of concrete foundation to deal with.

Sad, the restaurant one of the greatest locations on planet Earth

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Also, look how much sand and land has been lost since 2017. Papa’s foundation is a concrete peninsula and the chalet gives a new meaning to waterfront.

Thanks for the memories

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Carol, the two pics are after Papagayo was demolished. Here are pics from before it was flattened.
Added a third picture of the beach chalet from before it was removed.

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😢😢😢😢😢😢

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Yes, sad.


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The chalet closest to Papagayo (among the beach-side units) was owned by Fred and Shirley. Those readers who have been around for quite awhile will a recall a red-painted dory that was anchored just off shore at that position. Fred had built that himself. It was sort of a landmark. The boat was featured in many of the paintings that Mair Patterson would paint while sunning herself at the beach, and which she sold there and reproductions of which were also for sale at the Club O shop. I cannot remember which year it was she was told she could no longer sell her works on the beach and was so upset she left and has never returned as far as I know.

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We remember Mair Patterson. We had the pleasure of meeting her one day while we were at Baie Rouge many years ago. She was a very talented and gifted artist. I know she loved the island and we think of her from time to time and hope she is well.
We are heading down to the island next month and plan to visit the beach at Club O. Has the demolition work been completed? Are there any plans to rebuild? It would be a shame not to as it is such an iconic area. Thanks for any info everyone.

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This appeared in the local paper yesterday

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As of last Saturday, the entire Papagayo building was down and they were still working on loading the heap of metal and cement into dump trucks to haul away. It looks like they were starting to chip away at the rocks that surrounded the building. .

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I guess discrimination is permitted with regard to nudity in Saint Martin on Orient Beach.

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That news article is probably the most idiotic pice of discrimintation I have ever read. "just by looking at the way peoples private parts were sagging down it was obvious they exceeded the age limit (50)"

...and the nudity ban was because of "several heart attacks"?????

This has to be a joke article....if not SXM has degenerated severely

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Check the date of the article. Where I live, Monday was June 3rd and Tuesday was June 4th. Maybe it is island time.

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Would have been a good April 1st article. 😜

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Relax people. It's obviously a satire.


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Thanks for the pic of Papagayo. That getty that was built from the Papagayo cement foundation caused all the beach erosion. The sooner it is all removed the better for the beach and shoreline.

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I found myself checking the date on the article posted above to see if it was April 1st. Surely this is a joke. Right?

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Just joined up on TTOL. Been reading it for years.

Just wondering if anyone has more pictures to post on the Demolition at Club O. Went there for over 25 years and still go to the nude beach

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Haha! Jeff you got me! Apparently, you got many of us!!


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