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Re: Norwegian Cruises..
[Re: Manpot]
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05/09/2024 05:53 PM
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Actually I thought the reason why they cancelled those port calls is because the ship has some engine issues and they couldn't complete the itineraries as planned. As you said, most folks on Tortola probably won't be that sad.
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Re: Norwegian Cruises..
[Re: Manpot]
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05/09/2024 06:00 PM
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I can't think where I saw the story, but the BVI news may not have all the info..
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Re: Norwegian Cruises..
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05/10/2024 12:39 PM
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That is only part of the story reported by BVI News.They cite customer feedback as well. BVI politicians are finger pointing, blaming the state of the BVI infrastucture. For those of us with rental properties the cruise shippers have had a very negative impact for those expecting"Nature's Little Secrets"...not much of a secret with 4000 folks ,and sometimes almost twice that number, on our small island. The yacht charter business is doing well because they just sail away from the crowds ( witness the fewer boast at anchor in CGB when cruise ships are in).The beach bars that everyone thinks do well from the cruise passengers actually suffer because they keep customers away who want a nice lunch and cocktails .Sadly the folks on cruise ships do not spend much money ashore.There were even stories of one cruise line telling cruise shippers not to bother shopping in the BVIs and save their $$ for St Thomas...where,of course, they recommend several high end stores..The Gov makes $$off the landing fee per head...taxi drivers (especially the Romney Group) make $$ and the chair renters make $$..at the expense of land based guests who rent a car,dine out (and tip well) and stay in a villa or small hotel.
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Re: Norwegian Cruises..
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05/10/2024 01:37 PM
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No lies detected. We stopped at CGB about a week and a half ago, almost sat down at Myett's for a burger and a couple beers for early lunch, but with the cattle car taxi's arriving one after another, we grabbed a couple of souvenirs at the shop and high tailed it to Smuggler's Cove instead. There were still one or two small groups there who showed up from the cruise ship, but totally different crowd from those who descended on CGB. From what we saw, the cruise shippers pretty much went straight from the cab to the beach.
Patricia's food is remarkably good by any standard, but especially for food served from a tent.
We will always miss Sailor's Rest. It was sad to see such an amazing space turned into a gift shop.
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Re: Norwegian Cruises..
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05/16/2024 04:41 PM
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Chief Development Officer of Norwegian Cruise Line, Dan Farkas has praised the natural beauty of the BVI but said the roads are “not in good shape,” taking away from the guest experience the territory offers. “The country is absolutely beautiful, the waters are stunningly blue but you asked about infrastructure and I can tell you, just from my ride from the airport, the roads aren’t in great shape,” Frakas said frankly. “It could have been a cleaner ride in and it’s a distraction from the beauty. Our taxi driver had to play a little dodgeball with the potholes.” Link: https://bvinews.com/norwegian-cruise-bvi-is-great-but-the-roads-arent/
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Re: Norwegian Cruises..
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05/17/2024 09:10 AM
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Gee, Fitzhughlaw, you haven't heard of 'fair use'?? No need to post all of that when a small quote and a link will do, to avoid copyright infringement claims. I have edited your post.
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Re: Norwegian Cruises..
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05/18/2024 11:58 AM
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I have indeed heard of "fair use" and have handled such cases in the defense of people who posted a news item and were threatened with a lawsuit by copyright trolls. First of all, if not for commercial purposes, quoting of a piece is not infringement, and secondly, in Section 107 of the Copyright Act (17 U.S. Code § 107 in case you want to check), "news items" are given specific treatment as examples of non-infringement.
You're the boss here, and can do whatever you like, but chastising me for replicating an article merely to enable readers to avoid clicking on a link is misplaced - and with regard to the law, unavailing.
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Re: Norwegian Cruises..
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05/18/2024 02:57 PM
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Fitzhughlaw--WE as TTOL could be threatened with lawsuits for allowing others to post items in violation of copyright laws. Thus, we will continue to remove them. And, as I said, there is absolutely NO reason to copy and paste huge sections of text that one can just click on and read the original story.
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Re: Norwegian Cruises..
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05/18/2024 03:10 PM
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@Fitzhughlaw - you are assuming that TTOL is subject to U.S. law; which might not apply. In addition, you agreed to the terms and conditions, and it seems that you've forgotten Paragraph 16; which means that when it comes to TTOL's and your interpretation of what might be a copyright is a moot point. ( Forum Rules) 16. The posting of copyrighted material without the permission of the copyright holder is prohibited. Wholesale copying and pasting of copyrighted material is not ‘fair use’ and will be deleted without comment. Please post a LINK to the material and if appropriate, a SMALL snippet of the material. We reserve the right to remove or edit material which we deem to be in violation of copyright laws, but we are under no obligation to do so.
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Re: Norwegian Cruises..
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"WE as TTOL could be threatened with lawsuits for allowing others to post items in violation of copyright laws."
Apparently my note about news items and the Fair Use doctrine slipped past you. Again, you can do whatever you want, but before scolding someone, you should: (a) know what you're talking about; and (b) have a command of the law. I realize that having graduated from an institution that perenially turns out the largest graduating class in the world makes my credentials suspect because it's obviously one of those "factory law schools," but in this instance, I can claim both.
I'll save you the trouble of having to ever edit or delete a portion of a post of mine in the future. Adios....
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Re: Norwegian Cruises..
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05/18/2024 06:34 PM
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Fitzhugh--And yet, your clients got sued. Even if you win the case, your client lost, because they got sued. We are a small shop and can't afford to get sued, period. And again, for the third time, absolutely NO reason to copy and paste whole sections of copyrighted material, when a link will suffice.
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Re: Norwegian Cruises..
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05/19/2024 08:11 AM
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OK, this one isn't about the original topic anymore, so will close it here.
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