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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria
[Re: CindyO]
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10/04/2014 01:23 PM
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Can they possibly do that? I thought the island was going to provide stop gaps to prevent this kind of stuff happening to the timeshare owners.
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pat
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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria
[Re: mechtech43]
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10/04/2014 03:04 PM
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mechtech43 said: I just got my letter via email from Alegria stating that they will offer you a hotel room at the resort if you pay to them what your annual fees were to Caravanserai. It sounds like another "screw the ts owners" from the St. Maarten govt.when they allow us to have no say on the outcome of the Caravanserai. They let Manek get away with murder and then will sacrifice the ts owners since we all should be able to afford the loss. What a country Am I missing something here...isn't this what all timeshares do. After payment of your purchase price, you pay maintenance fees every year and use your timeshare.
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Does Anyone have the full text of the email?
[Re: Carol_Hill]
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10/04/2014 05:50 PM
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Can you post the whole thing, including sender's ID and contact info so we all can see it??? There's panic out there and most people haven't yet even seen the email. I'd like to get the full text to govt folks so they can get involved if any laws have been broken here.
Jeff Berger Visiting SXM Since 1978
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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria
[Re: CindyO]
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10/04/2014 06:18 PM
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This is the whole thing: This is the agreement that Caravanserai wants all timeshare owners to agree to. It is posted at Agreement Letter The cover email reads: From: alegria operations <alegriaoperations@outlook.com> To: alegria operations <alegriaoperations@outlook.com> Sent: Sat, Oct 4, 2014 1:47 pm Subject: Timeshare Agreement status at THE CARAVANSERAI BEACH RESORT‏ Dear Timeshare owner, Attached please find a letter that is intended to update you on the status as a timeshare owner at the Caravanserai Beach Resort. Should you have any questions or comments, please contact us directly via this email address or by telephone number 721-545-4000. Sincerely, The Management of Alegria Operations N.V.
Jeff Berger Visiting SXM Since 1978
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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria
[Re: MrWhiskerssammy]
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10/04/2014 08:52 PM
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IF this is legal and IF it stands, chalk up one more black eye for the island of St. Maarten. I so hope the interpretations here are wrong for everyone's sake.
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Re: Does Anyone have the full text of the email?
[Re: jmbcomms]
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10/04/2014 09:35 PM
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Maybe I am wrong but I thought the bank had assigned someone to overlook the running of Caravanserai for quite some time pending the sale. If the timeshare sales were going on openly in the lobby while being run by a bank assigned person then it seems to me that the bank therefore waived any objection to timeshare sales and in fact was giving approval to timeshare sales and even encouraged the sale of timeshares to maximize profit for the bank and attract a buyer. It seems disingenuous for someone to argue otherwise.
In fact it seems to me if at any time someone working at the front desk while the bank had taken over had printed out a charge or collected a timeshare tax from anyone staying there or cashed/deposited a timeshare maintenance fee then that person was acting as am agent of the bank and approving in writing the existence of timeshares at the resort.
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Re: Caravanserai now Alegria
[Re: San]
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10/04/2014 10:43 PM
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I can't answer questions now (no time) but I'm working behind the scenes to make some things happen.I need your help everyone...
************* URGENT RE: CARAVANSERAI *************
We are working on a lot of things related to this situation. Right now, we URGENTLY need to know a) if there is a Caravanserai Timeshare Owners Association; b) if so, who heads it and how we may get in touch with the top people (phone/email); and c) we need similar contact info for people who have a lot of ownership at the resort (many weeks / penthouse / etc.) Please do *NOT* put this info online; email it to jmbweb[at]jmbcommunications.com as quickly as possible, preferably during the day on Sunday. Time is of the essence to move forward on this situation... I need your help....
Jeff Berger Visiting SXM Since 1978
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Re: Does Anyone have the full text of the email?
[Re: SXMScubaman]
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10/04/2014 11:43 PM
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Yeah...I am a former full time lawyer who is now a stay at home mom. In the past 5 years my husband (at age 44) battled prostate cancer through surgery and radiation, my daughter got type 1 diabetes and went into a coma and nearly died, we lost 2 family members, a crazy former employee nearly destroyed our business, and I was diagnosed with a congenital peripheral nerve disorder. Despite all of that we have managed to stay married, protect our business, raise beautiful high achieving kids, and still donate to charity. We visit St. Maarten for 2 weeks every year and that is one of the joys in my life that is a respite from the stresses we have faced in life, and someone is tarnishing it. Suck it up and run is not in my genetic makeup. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Does Anyone have the full text of the email?
[Re: mecs]
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10/05/2014 01:02 AM
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Mecs, and others, did you receive a letter? I got a copy of one forwarded to me, but I still have not received a letter.
I am hopeful that next week we will have more clarity on the plan of the resort and what action we will have to take.
Good luck all, T
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Re: Does Anyone have the full text of the email?
[Re: mecs]
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10/05/2014 08:35 AM
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Wow, if the St. Maarten government allows this to happen, this will prove yet again that the only protection you have in buying a t/s is the integrity of the owners, like at LaVista. You have absolutely zero legal protection.
Carol Hill
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Re: Does Anyone have the full text of the email?
[Re: boucharda]
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10/05/2014 09:25 AM
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Great points, all.
If the new owners persist with this attempt to force the timeshare purchasers into submission, it sounds like a good island lawyer is needed to bring this before the Dutch courts and resolve the issues once and for all. You all purchased in good faith and since the convening Dutch authorities are already questioning the integrity of the island governments, this might be a good test case to see where they really stand. Sadly, this wouldn't be an inexpensive solution.
I can't help but wonder what will happen to those who are scheduled to stay there in the next few months while this is resolved. I wish you all good luck. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
Respectfully,
pat
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