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#104969 08/11/2016 08:22 AM
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For all you skippers and crews who love the gadgets and technology here is one tool to separate your yacht and crew from the pack!

http://www.hookandmoor.com/video

We should also note how the video also demonstrates the helmsman positioning the yacht at the appropriate speed for the crew to utilize the boat hook.

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That's too cool <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Joy.gif" alt="" />

I could sure have used one while trying to pickup a mooring on a 50k lb boat in20 kts of wind this spring <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Yikes.gif" alt="" />


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they are cool, but quite pricey for a charter guest.

https://www.amazon.com/Hook-Moor%C2%A0Bo...s=hook+and+moor

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Yeah but it's kinda like the Clark pressure recovery pump used on some water makers. You can watch it for hours trying to figure out how the h**l it works! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />


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You can always get a kit like this and take one apart and put it back together again to determine how it really works...

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If you watch the slow-mo part of the video at about 00:25 you can get a good idea of how it works.

The shackle is attached to a toothed, semi-circular hunk of metal. As you push the handle forward, a mechanism inside pushes the semi-circular hunk (that's the technical term) out from one side of the hook, and grabs and pulls it into the other side.

Pretty clever. It looks like the pieces have to be well aligned for it to work, so I wonder what happens after it gets knocked around a few times.

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Useless in the BVI where all the moorings have a pennent to pick up

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Far more useful is a 10ft boat hook. more more laying on your belly. Those 6 footers are useless when you have 6ft of freeboard.

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Far more useful is a 10ft boat hook. more more laying on your belly. Those 6 footers are useless when you have 6ft of freeboard.


Or, well, two of them, that float. Because, there was that one time at Norman Island.

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We seem to drop a boat hook about once per charter.

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Chuckling to myself, I'm thinking, " oh, someone watched his mother and grandmother using a latch hook".

It is a latch hook on steroids.

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they are cool, but quite pricey for a charter guest.

https://www.amazon.com/Hook-
Moor%C2%A0Bo...s=hook+and+moor


Here's a 10 foot model and a lot cheaper!

http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|2276155|2276123&id=2207048


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I purchased the 11' long Landing Loop last summer (~$79). Simple technology that enables one person to get a line around a dock cleat or piling from the 6.5' high deck on our catamaran. Our marina was usually unattended when we returned so this was invaluable.

It takes just a few minutes of practice at the dock for the assigned crew member to figure it out before heading out.

http://www.landingloop.com/

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Does the charter company make you pay for it?


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I bought it for my own use. It came in handy while in the Chesapeake. I keep it in my owner's locker as I don't want to encourage charterers to try to tie up at an unattended dock.

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Here's another approach. Adds on to existing boat hook. Pretty simple, and you could make it yourself, but probably not worth the time for the price.
http://www.dockingstick.com
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These things are about as useful as the salad spinner from Ronco

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These things are about as useful as the salad spinner from Ronco


Gotta agree, Most dock lines stay on the dock. Unless you are chartering or cruising to distant places. However I have used a salad spinner before.


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These things are about as useful as the salad spinner from Ronco


HAHAHAHA! Truedat! And you're showing your age!

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Not sure if any of these contraptions help. Don't own one. Though have been in some situations where I thought they might be useful.
One thing I know for sure. If you leave your dock lines on the dock you are missing 90% of what sailing is. Next time, take them with you and see where you end up.

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One thing I know for sure. If you leave your dock lines on the dock you are missing 90% of what sailing is. Next time, take them with you and see where you end up.

This makes no sense to me on a couple different levels. Day sailing is sailing. Sailing somewhere and anchoring out is sailing. Sailing somewhere and staying at another marina is sailing....I don't need my dock lines for any of those...what's the 90% I'm missing?


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I don't get it either. I have 6 dock lines, why would I leave them on the dock, they are mine?

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referring to leaving them on your dock I believe, the slip you actually keep the boat at not the ones you visit

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and we leave dock lines on our permanent dock and have extra lines for docking elsewhere....guess Im not getting that either

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We boat on a lake. Sometimes on the coast. We return eventually to our slip. We have dock lines and shore power cords that stay at the dock. We have another set that travels with us. Not too hard to understand unless you want to emphasize that you are not tied down.

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I interpreted Captmoby's comment as suggesting that tools for getting docklines set were useless because "most docklines stay on the dock" - I believe that a large part of sailing is seeing new places; places where you don't have docklines preset and sometimes where your docking skills are tested. In some cases, some of these tools may help.

Just because a tool is useless to some (who return to their dock every day) doesn't make it useless to others (who sometimes don't).

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Seeing new places?
Isn't that what an anchor is for?
Some of us that are lake sailors only have the slip or a quiet anchorage to "go" to after a days sail. Absolutely no reason to take your dock lines.


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"most dock lines stay on the dock" I get it if you own a boat and are permanently on a dock, however charter boats go from one bay or dock to another. You need fuel, water, or even overnight at Leverick, you need dock lines.

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Totally agree, but are you gonna haul that boat hook with you on your trip down? When sailing my boat that is kept there the dock lines stay on the boat. Probably not totally necessary as there are always enough spares and other lines on the boat that will do if needed.


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no, the boat hook is on the boat


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