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Re: Charter Vessels "Registered" to Fish?
[Re: SailOrion]
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02/17/2016 09:17 AM
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I would be interested to find out too. We are bare-boating in July and one guy on the trip (his first) would like to be able to fish. It was our understanding that all he would need was a fishing license.
Allan
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Re: Charter Vessels "Registered" to Fish?
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02/17/2016 09:57 AM
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From everything that I see online, TRADEWINDS is correct -- they only need the name of the boat you are on.
Allan
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Re: Charter Vessels "Registered" to Fish?
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02/17/2016 11:07 AM
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LivinLarge said: From everything that I see online, TRADEWINDS is correct -- they only need the name of the boat you are on. And you really don't have to have that since for companies such as Moorings/Sunsail they won't tell you. I think for my last application I just put in "Sunsail Charter". They processed no problem. I also put the same info in registration.
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Re: Charter Vessels "Registered" to Fish?
[Re: StormJib]
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02/17/2016 12:02 PM
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StormJib said: If anyone has any contacts with the folks running the islands or in the odd chance someone from the BVI leadership is listening. Why not slightly raise the charter or cruising permit cost and include "recreational fishing" say less than 3-5 fish in possession per boat to the charter/cruising permit. The folks processing the fishing paperwork could be redirected to making sure all the boats and visitors have the proper single document paperwork needed for visiting yachtsman. Flame me all you want. But, single simpler paperwork that raises the same or reasonably justifiable revenue from visitors is better all around. Make it clear and simple either you paid your tax to be on holiday visiting or you did not. Either recreational fishing is welcome or it is not. How about you don't raise the cruising permit cost since not everyone cares about fishing and everyone complains when costs go up. If you want to fish, knock yourself out and pay for your own license. Don't try to spread your cost out to the rest of us.
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Re: Charter Vessels "Registered" to Fish?
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ggffrr11 said: The best thing to do is to "not get a license". If the authorities pull up to your boat, hand the fishing rod off to someone else on the boat. Then, go down below. That's important: remember to go down below. If you have to come back up again, then act like you don't know anything about it. Then, ask if they'll let you keep the rod/reel as they haul off the law breakers. I know that is a joke and we have fished many times without any documentation. We stopped all that cold when they took the guy's boat. Even if it is "just a rental". Having the boat confiscated will be a nightmare for you and a long list of other people. "ST. THOMAS - A U.S. diplomat traveled to the British Virgin Islands this week, asking top leaders to consider granting clemency to a U.S. Virgin Islands sport fisherman imprisoned for fishing without a license in BVI waters.
Clyde Howard Jr., U.S. Consul General at the U.S. Embassy in Barbados, met with BVI Gov. David Pearey and Premier Ralph O'Neal on Tuesday and Wednesday to discuss the case of St. Thomas resident Richard Baker."
Baker, 54, has served six weeks of his 12-month sentence in Tortola's Balsam Gut prison. The sentence was handed down after he was unable to pay the $46,000 combined fine he received for unlicensed fishing and illegal entry.
Baker and his common-law wife, Deborah Barton, had been relaxing on their boat Sept. 24 with two fishing lines and artificial lures trailing behind them when enforcement officers boarded the vessel. The couple said they had not caught any fish and did not know they were in BVI waters.
The maximum fines for fishing without a license are more than 100 times greater in the BVI than an the USVI - $500,000, compared with $400.
At least two other USVI fishermen, Adin Kauffman and Ishmael Hodge, also have received fines of at least $30,000 this year for fishing in BVI waters without a license.
And in 2002 and 2003, a series of U.S.-registered boats found fishing in BVI waters were seized, causing public outcry and leading to lost business for the charter boat operations involved.
Howard called the BVI law, which doesn't distinguish between penalties for commercial and sport fishermen, "flawed.""
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Re: Charter Vessels "Registered" to Fish?
[Re: Twalsh]
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03/24/2016 01:07 AM
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Twalsh said: Contact Conservation & Fisheries Dept., 284-468-2700. I uploaded application, identification and cc authorization to the dept. I received the license within 24 hours. Thanks!!! I'll call them tomorrow
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Re: Charter Vessels "Registered" to Fish?
[Re: Mardi_Gras]
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03/24/2016 07:16 PM
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If I have my recreational fishing license, on a charter boat without the pleasure fishing licence, who will pay the fines ? Me ? The charter co. ? The boat owner ? It's ridiculous !
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Re: Charter Vessels "Registered" to Fish?
[Re: WayneC]
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03/27/2016 10:47 AM
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Someone please chime in here: A license is only required if fishing aboard a vessel, correct? If I fish from shore, or wade, no license is required?
The world is an oyster; now where did I leave my oyster knife...?
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Re: Charter Vessels "Registered" to Fish?
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03/27/2016 11:02 AM
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As far as I know that is correct.
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. - Mark Twain
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Re: Charter Vessels "Registered" to Fish?
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03/27/2016 01:23 PM
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They are $50 million over budget on the hospital, $40 million over on the cruise pier, want to spend $250 million on the airport and running out of cash for roads and sewerage. What do you think?
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. - Mark Twain
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Re: Charter Vessels "Registered" to Fish?
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03/27/2016 03:30 PM
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GlennA said: They are $50 million over budget on the hospital, $40 million over on the cruise pier, want to spend $250 million on the airport and running out of cash for roads and sewerage. What do you think? Any idea on what the total taxes and fees are per charter boat per year or per person per charter boat per day? We are experiencing higher travel taxes and fees all over the US. Most lodging taxes are 3% to 13% and growing, many airport rental cars are taxed close to 30%, all of the traveler taxes and fees in US cities are creeping up to $20 per day per person or more. According to Forbes when you factor in the airlines a US trip cost can be 30% in government taxes and fees. What would the BVI numbers add up too?
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Re: Charter Vessels "Registered" to Fish?
[Re: StormJib]
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03/27/2016 06:12 PM
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Very rough estimate would be around $16/day/person. That is based on 7% tax, an average charter price of $4,500/week, 30 weeks and the latest caricom boat count (2013) would be a bit over $10.5 million a year. That is on top of the $2/day/person cruising tax (about $2.8 Mil)and the $20 departure tax (about $3 mil for charter guest only) .
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. - Mark Twain
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