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Re: L'Auberge Review
[Re: mahokid]
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08/31/2015 08:13 AM
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Auberge was our favorite for years, but we haven't been there for a long time, for whatever reason. The food sounds divine, so we need to get back there, it seems..
However, tipping is certainly up to you, but we never leave 20% on the French side..
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Re: L'Auberge Review
[Re: GaKaye]
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08/31/2015 09:14 AM
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GaKaye said: L'auberge Gourmande was a favorite of ours for many years, until we were also presented with the check rubber-stamped "service not included". You can bet that's not given to French clients. The service is included with the menu price unless the menu specifically states otherwise, and if you find out when the check is delivered, that's just wrong. I know the whole subject of tipping on the French side comes up from time-to-time and I have been going to SXM for years and yours is the best explanation I've seen, thank you! Having traveled a bit in Europe I know that most countries require servers to be paid a living wage and can understand why the "tip" might be referred to as a service charge....but stamping the check, as you mentioned, is unacceptable and basically taking advantage of Americans who are used to generously tipping servers to make up for their pay levels.
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Re: L'Auberge Review
[Re: DrDoug]
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08/31/2015 11:06 AM
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Two negatives make a positive in the English language. It just means they have not shown it on your bill, but it has been included in the actual price according to French law. They are suggesting if you want to leave something extra,please feel free to do so. Never leave your usual tipping amount unless you have money you want to get rid of as that is DOUBLE tipping and they are DOUBLE dipping!Lots of people get tricked into tipping this way because they purposely try to confuse you!
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Re: L'Auberge Review
[Re: DrDoug]
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08/31/2015 01:32 PM
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DrDoug said:
Georgia,
I haven't eaten there and have no dog in the fight. But I was interested after the review by the OP and looked up their site. It seems to be a bit dated as they state 15%.
Where's what is clearly stated on their website in the Dinner Menu page. The two "nots" are confusing.
The menu and prices are subject to change. The traditional 15% service charge is [color:"red"]not[/color] included in these prices and will [color:"red"]not[/color] be added to your bill. Prices are in Euros. Pasta and vegetarian dishes are available.
Surprised the statement doesn't appear on the menu. There never was a traditional 15% service charge on the French side. By law all charges are built into the menu price. It would be the same as if a restaurant put an extra 15% charge for dishes and silverware. Those charges are built into the menu prices just as the tips are.
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Re: L'Auberge Review
[Re: weeks5051]
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08/31/2015 01:50 PM
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I simply reported what their website currently has. Check it out: http://www.laubergegourmande.com/menu.htmlI may have misinterpreted it, but if the rubber stamp thing comes at the end, I could see why if what they state is actually true.
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Re: L'Auberge Review
[Re: GaKaye]
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08/31/2015 04:21 PM
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We had a similar rubber stamp experience at the former Le Frigate in Oyster Pond. There were even hand-drawn exclamation points after it. A young French couple who overheard us questioning it (even though there was a 15% "service" charge also added) told us that the owner only did this to US visitors. Yes, it is unethical and can ruin an otherwise nice dining experience. We never return to places that engage in this practice. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Mad.gif" alt="" />
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Re: L'Auberge Review
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08/31/2015 05:47 PM
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Last year at Le Main a la Pate at the Marina Royal, the host said the tip was not included. I questioned him and he said- "oh no, not included". I THOUGHT he was our friend since we were regular customers for the last several years. We usually leave 5-10% on the French side. I guess he wanted more from us Americans. Didn't happen. I don't like being lied too.
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Re: L'Auberge Review
[Re: GaKaye]
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09/01/2015 04:58 PM
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GaKaye said: You are exactly correct, Ro. Servers in France are paid a living wage, unlike in the US, where servers are paid well below minimum wage and rely on tips to survive. $15an hour in Seattle for servers and they still give you a check with the suggested tip percentages at the bottom. The tip credit states are getting less and less. But seriously, how were the shrimp.
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Re: L'Auberge Review
[Re: mahokid]
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09/02/2015 09:45 AM
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With regard to pork tenderloin, I took that section of this thread out and put it in the recipe forum. Hopefully we can breathe some new life there, as it's been dead lately.
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