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Re: CORONA VIRUS
[Re: SammyM]
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02/27/2020 10:17 AM
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Sammy--Diamond Princess is the only ship that for sure had Corona onboard. The other ship, the Westerdam, which supposedly had someone onboard with Corona, the lady tested positive and then negative, so it may have been a false positive, which apparently happens. I think that is the biggest problem so far with this thing, that the test is apparently not very accurate, as there are several instances of negative and then positive AND the opposite, within close proximity in time. And perhaps an even bigger problem, a substantial portion of the people infected are asymptomatic, as in, NO symptoms. So they don't have any idea they have been infected. Ships are not really the biggest risk. It is people, travelling on planes. The Diamond Princess situation supposedly all started from ONE person who was infected, although I kind of wonder about that chronology now. Immigration officials can check for people who have recently been in China, but small cells are popping up everywhere now, such as in Italy. A tourist destination cannot stop everyone from coming in.
"Also, this type of virus should not spread as aggressively in warmer and more humid environments." Really? Where did you get that from?
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Re: CORONA VIRUS
[Re: jupiter]
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02/27/2020 11:41 AM
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Hi Carol ... viruses spread more rapidly and proliferate at a greater rate in cold weather environments because colder air causes nasal passages and upper respiratory tracts to dry out which allows easier attachment by air born viruses. In warmer, humid weather our respiratory systems are more capable to fend off such viruses (that is why some people run humidifiers in their homes in the northern states where the air dries out significantly during the winter months). In addition, viruses are far more stable in cold, dry air because the particles can remain air born longer. In thick, humid air the virus droplets that emerge when someone sneezes will pick up moisture from the air and fall to the ground. Of course, this does not protect us from someone who has touched a door knob or faucet and didn't wash their hands. That is why we must resist touching our faces and rubbing our eyes during flu sneezes. These same principals should apply to a corona virus. It's a different type of virus that is still being understood, but it's still a virus nonetheless.
Where did I get this from? First, from the youngest son who's lab in California works with viruses on a molecular level, and then I e-mailed my pulmonary doctor at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio to get his thoughts about it and he provided essentially the same response. From what I am interpreting, many of the decisions being made by some countries has been based on fear and xenophobia. Some crazy travel bans have emerged in the Caribbean (like the cruise ship that had one person with a mild case of the flu) not being permitted to make port in Jamaica the other day). Fortunately, Mexico allowed the ship to dock and there was absolutely no corona virus on that ship. I highly doubt that travel bans can effectively prevent outbreaks when they arise; people will simply hide their symptoms from doctors and take medications to make them feel better.
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Re: CORONA VIRUS
[Re: SXMScubaman]
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02/27/2020 11:45 AM
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Little over 50 cases in US and over half were from the Cruise ship brought back to US with virus. Please state your source. No mention on national news.
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Re: CORONA VIRUS
[Re: jupiter]
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02/27/2020 12:02 PM
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Again, this really is not about SXM, but a worldwide situation. Moving this to SXM People Talk.
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Re: CORONA VIRUS
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02/27/2020 03:24 PM
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Very valid point. I cannot imagine if we had been on Diamond Princess, how we would be able to cope with the quarantine. Most of the US passengers on Diamond Princess were probably retired, but even if you're NOT working, can't imagine the disruption to people's lives as a result of the quarantine. ...which is not to say that it wasn't necessary, as it quite obviously was.
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Re: CORONA VIRUS
[Re: SXMScubaman]
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02/27/2020 05:01 PM
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Agreed, I think a lot of people ended up infected because of bad isolation procedures on the ship. There were a lot of mistakes made all the way around. And officials in Japan are now admitting that.
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Re: CORONA VIRUS
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From SXM news "PREPARE FOR MORE SICK CRUISE SHIP PASSENGERS ST MAARTEN: Cruise ship sails to St. Maarten after COVID-19 scare. HAVANA – A British cruise ship turned away by the Dominican Republic after passengers suffered flu-like symptoms was awaiting approval to dock on the island of St. Maarten on Friday, officials said.
Dominican officials said they barred the Braemar from the Romana cruise port — where the cruise had been scheduled to end — after its captain reported four Filipinos, two British citizens and two U.S. citizens under medical observation for symptoms such as fever, coughing, or breathing difficulty.
EDITED TO REMOVE MOST OF THE POST. In the future, please post a link. You can't copy and paste a whole story. Carol Hill
Last edited by Carol_Hill; 02/28/2020 05:08 PM.
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Re: CORONA VIRUS
[Re: sxmmartini]
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02/28/2020 09:08 PM
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OK, not sure why they suspected them to be infected with Corona, but certainly hope they are not. Does SXM even have the ability to test for Corona??
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Re: CORONA VIRUS
[Re: LBI2SXM]
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02/29/2020 03:31 PM
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Saw that. Not sure where the person came from, maybe someone who was evacuated from China? I don't think anyone from the Diamond Princess was in Washington state..
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Re: CORONA VIRUS
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03/01/2020 07:28 AM
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News bulletin: 1st death from c-virus in the USA reported. The USA has 34 million masks for health care workers but limited test kits???? Monday CDC will give the code for state labs to test for Covid-19 in the past only the CDC was testing for the virus. 10k citizens are self monitoring. This is a wait and see moment. When they can actually tests these people it will be a wake up call to all states to prepare! Heard yesterday that no association was found. Person didn't travel to/from China, didn't go anywhere to come into contact but lives near a nursing home.
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Re: CORONA VIRUS
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03/01/2020 12:04 PM
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Post deleted. Please post links. Carol Hill
Last edited by Carol_Hill; 03/01/2020 03:07 PM.
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