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Re: Gus chairs and drinks back at Baie Rouge
[Re: SXMBND]
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01/27/2019 03:33 PM
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Illegal is.illegal........... it's not like it's a new rule. So true. People need to get over it. Good while it lasted but laws are laws.
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Re: Gus chairs and drinks back at Baie Rouge
[Re: SXMScubaman]
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01/27/2019 03:41 PM
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Illegal is.illegal........... it's not like it's a new rule. So true. People need to get over it. Good while it lasted but laws are laws. Correct and correct. Some will complain when laws are not enforced and others will complain when they are enforced.
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Re: Gus chairs and drinks back at Baie Rouge
[Re: Joecool]
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01/29/2019 01:02 AM
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Go Team Gus! Public beaches, regardless of any agreements made, and with that the ability of private businesses to service the beaches not blocked by a small group of residents that want a private beach. Illegal is allowing for a private beach.
I prefer the Isle seat
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Re: Gus chairs and drinks back at Baie Rouge
[Re: dfmsml]
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01/29/2019 02:32 PM
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The beach is public. There are laws protecting the beach and requiring permits. No permit, you shouldn't be there. Why do so many of you promote breaking the law?
Elaine ********************************* God Bless the broken road....
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Re: Gus chairs and drinks back at Baie Rouge
[Re: BillandElaine]
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01/29/2019 03:46 PM
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The beach is public. There are laws protecting the beach and requiring permits. No permit, you shouldn't be there. Why do so many of you promote breaking the law? Totally agree.
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Re: Gus chairs and drinks back at Baie Rouge
[Re: BillandElaine]
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01/29/2019 05:27 PM
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The beach is public. There are laws protecting the beach and requiring permits. No permit, you shouldn't be there. Why do so many of you promote breaking the law? Because they enjoyed the place and the person/people without regard to the local laws. Sad as that may be.
J.D.
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Re: Gus chairs and drinks back at Baie Rouge
[Re: BillandElaine]
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01/29/2019 07:22 PM
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It is not about breaking the law, or ignoring the law. It is that a small local group is able to restrict what permits are allowed on public property. I am sure they are not the only group that restricts what happens on their stretch of beach but there is a flaw there. I will miss having Gus there although we did not go to that beach as much as we once did. It would be nice to have somebody there servicing the beach area, and I would like to see that allowed and would support his efforts to be able to do that.
I prefer the Isle seat
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Re: Gus chairs and drinks back at Baie Rouge
[Re: Todd]
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01/29/2019 07:40 PM
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Were there ever any legal permits applied for? If so were they denied, approved or never acted on? I have no idea but you did refer to "It is that a small local group is able to restrict what permits are allowed on public property."
J.D.
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Re: Gus chairs and drinks back at Baie Rouge
[Re: SXMScubaman]
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01/29/2019 08:05 PM
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The beach is public. There are laws protecting the beach and requiring permits. No permit, you shouldn't be there. Why do so many of you promote breaking the law? Totally agree. X3
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Re: Gus chairs and drinks back at Baie Rouge
[Re: Todd]
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01/30/2019 06:47 AM
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I disagree dear friend. The vendor was breaking the law. The surrounding property owners asked to have the law upheld and sorry but Hallelujah on the French side they actually enforce the law. Right or wrong, it's the law. So wish it was so on this side.
Elaine ********************************* God Bless the broken road....
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Re: Gus chairs and drinks back at Baie Rouge
[Re: dfmsml]
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02/17/2019 06:18 PM
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Just to give you folks and update- Gus is still there, he is renting out the chairs and umbrellas but you need to come early or you will get none... he makes drinks, but not the blended ones. No power, no water... basically, operates out of his cooolers under the umbrella. Charging now $20 for a set of two chairs and umbrella. He said that he does have a food and alcohol permit so he can sell it anywhere on a French side but he can not rebuild his bar. No permanent structures allowed. I was happy to see him there, at least you can get some basic stuff. He mentioned that he is trying to set up a bbq grill and start cooking food.
"Often Wrong, Never in Doubt"
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Re: Gus chairs and drinks back at Baie Rouge
[Re: dfmsml]
#185014
02/21/2019 11:41 PM
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Well here is another update: on Tuesday we went to Bai Ruge again, rented chairs and umbrella from Gus. The day was a bit windy, our umbrella didn’t work very well, was constantly bent over in a wrong way, lol! I saw a few more heavy duty umbrellas in a pile next to Gus’s stand and came to ask to get mine replaced.... to my huge surprise Gus asked me for another $10.00!!! I said “ Are you serious or is it a joke?” He was serious! I pointed out that we had the heavy duty umbrella before and NEVER had to pay more for it... I was really pizzed. I told him that there is no way I am going to pay more than $20 for a set! He ended up getting me a different umbrella but not the one that I wanted... He doesn’t have many takers for his sets. Most locals bring their own stuff and I counted only 4 rented sets that day. If Gus wants to survive there- he needs to stop penny pinch people. That will create an unhappy customers for sure! Instead of gouging people, he should’ve offered a cheaper rate for a set to people who arrive after 2-3 pm, maybe like $10.00. In that case all the locals who come in for a few last hours would rent for sure, but not for $20! Ok, my rant is over...
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Re: Gus chairs and drinks back at Baie Rouge
[Re: dfmsml]
#185092
02/22/2019 08:30 PM
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Laughable! He said it’s bigger and cost more! And just a few days ago, when there were more chairs were set up, the price was the same!
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Re: Gus chairs and drinks back at Baie Rouge
[Re: Islandercpl]
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02/22/2019 10:14 PM
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It's a shame there's apparently no "grandfather" clause that would cover him.
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Re: Gus chairs and drinks back at Baie Rouge
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02/22/2019 10:27 PM
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Well said, Deputy Dog. I lived on the beach in Broward County for 60 years, still have a condo on the ocean on Hutchinson Island. You're correct on the high water mark info. Unfortunately, too many people "borrow" hotel or condo or someone's personal facilities, chairs, pools, often leading to owners who have just "had it." Now if they wanted to borrow my stuff and kick in for the mortgage, taxes, hurricane insurance, etc., that might make a difference!
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Re: Gus chairs and drinks back at Baie Rouge
[Re: SXMScubaman]
#185113
02/23/2019 07:57 AM
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With no original permit how could he be grandfathered in? Squaters rites? Don't think so. X2
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Re: Gus chairs and drinks back at Baie Rouge
[Re: irina]
#185114
02/23/2019 07:57 AM
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You all need to get a grip. Gus can charge whatever he wants, just as you can. Don't like it? Don't pay it. Bring your own chair. Or sit on your towel. And don't compare your experiences "living on the coast" in US to anything outside of US. Cheers I X2
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Re: Gus chairs and drinks back at Baie Rouge
[Re: SXMScubaman]
#185291
02/24/2019 02:55 PM
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Violations can be "grandfathered" in some cases when the infraction is allowed/overlooked by officials for a period of time. Depends on the community, history, etc. Grandfathering doesn't always have to depend on a previously issued permit. Experience from 8 yr chair of P&Z and Bd of Adj. Did you mean "squatters rights" or were you referencing some arcane religious sect with "squaters rites"? Just a lighthearted jest!
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Re: Gus chairs and drinks back at Baie Rouge
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02/25/2019 10:26 AM
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Here is in this thread, Islandcouple stated that they had talked to him personally and confirmed it, just two posts above yours.
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