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This theory makes lots of sense.

Thank you.

What trial?

I guess some people might think auto-pilot will avoid obstacles and pick up a mooring ball or drop anchor for you?

Auto pilot is for when the captain flunks the sobriety test. (Just kidding of course).

It is not unusual at all for some to just put the cursor in the middle of the area they generally want to go. Then head down to the head or deal with some other task. For that reason many of the charter companies would disable the early auto pilots, chart plotters ect.

Sorry, tonnage is a measure of VOLUME not WEIGHT. "You know nothing, Jon Snow!"

he knows how to copy and paste

... and plagiarize.

Believe what you want. In virtually all industries and markets he who has the gold makes the rules. In the charter fleet world that is the banks financing the owners boats and the insurance underwriters protecting the banks from losses.


Pick up the telephone and try to get an insurance quote to bareboat a hull with a value of $2 Million or a gross weight of 150,000lbs. You will not find any underwriters willing to cover boats of that weight or value without a licensed crew.

Keep the value under one million pounds sterling and you will find some takers for a bonafide charter operation.

The marketing companies will gladly make the commissions on anything anyone is will to buy for them and the insurance companies willing to insure.

yes, since so many people use pounds in the U.S. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" />

I doubt you will find a charter boat weighing 150,000 lbs. for smaller charter boats insurance is about 2% of hull value, weight was never an issue

Yup... A Voyage 60 weighs in only around 40,000 lb.

I'm more confused why casailor is picking on his buddy, Ron. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" />

So, does anyone know how the boat did? Any major damage?

We saw the Moorings 58 take a ball at Ivan's after they were pulled off the reef. They stayed the night.

My understanding is that the stub keels on these boats are essentially sacrificial. If there was no other contact the damage may be relatively minor.

The keels on the Leopards are designed to be sacrificed. The can be unbolted and replaced. With the impact they had they are probably going to need replacement or a lot of glasswork. That area of the reef is shallow enough that it's possible there was some hull damage. If no hull damage there are no real issues staying out to the end of the charter.
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surprised the props were not damaged

Likely the keels did some of their job and prevented the hull from traveling into water shallow enough to do real damage. Outside of single errant rock or coral head the rudders would be ripped from the boat before the props and struts would be damaged. Prudent naval architecture is a design that will handle a sudden grounding at hull speed with no threat to water integrity or the ability to sail to safe harbor. Not having a design capable of a sudden stop at hull speed puts the life of the passengers at risk with collisions of submerged containers and whatever else waits just below the surface at night.

water integrity?

That means the hull remains solid and intact and no water comes into the hull or hulls or the opposite of catastrophic hull failure. Properly designed boats are more than capable of slamming into the bottom or other hazard in the water without sinking. See the video of the 5800 hundred and all the boats with scratches on the keels in any BVI anchorage. The good ones just get scratch when they slam into the bottom under power or sail.

When the moorings people want to talk with you after the accident, all you gotta say is "this reef was not shown anywhere in the sailing guide on the approach to '--Cooper Island--'". You want to make sure you say this with a straight face.

Also, it's important to note on these big cats that all you have to do when approaching the dock is "straddle the pier". This means you don't have to put out fenders or use any lines. Its very simple.

I was on a ball in front of Ivan’s in White Bay. I watched a number of boats including Moorings boats which appeared to have Mooring captains motor over the reef on the east side. There are 2 channels one cleanly marked with red and green buoys in front of Soggy, the other towards the eastern end with one marker or what appeared to be a green buoy. No red buoy. The cruising guide shows a reef on the eastern end and boats appeared to be entering and exiting right over it with no attempts to use either marked channels. What am I missing?

Your not missing anything

Green Marker at Ivan's End is way off station....