Traveltalkonline.com Forums

.


SXM Cruise Schedule TTOL Sponsors SXM Travel Calendar
Forum Statistics
Forums39
Topics39,573
Posts320,957
Members26,686
Most Online4,031
Dec 15th, 2024
Top Posters(30 Days)
jazzgal 47
RonDon 39
GaKaye 23
Kennys 21
Member Spotlight
Southshore
Southshore
Mississauga, ON, Canada
Posts: 882
Joined: January 2004
Today's Birthdays
echart1, harlan, mollymouse
Who's Online Now
6 members (Todd, SeeDiver, charlie, road3682, 2 invisible), 391 guests, and 51 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
#195770 05/24/2019 08:34 AM
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 84,002
Likes: 4
Traveler
OP Offline
Traveler
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 84,002
Likes: 4
I saw on a menu for a Grand Case restaurant that "TGCA not included", or similar words in French. What is that?


Carol Hill
SXM Sponsors
.
Carol_Hill #195772 05/24/2019 08:43 AM
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 27
B
Bip Offline
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
B
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 27
http://www.traveltalkonline.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/45632.html

The TGCA is a tax applicable on the entire territory of the Community of St. Martin in the French West Indies since August 1, 2010. It is due to local economic operations , including sales and services. Are involved all stakeholders in the economy of the island, businesses, commerce and the professions. The amount of 4% on sales is donated to the Community in order to enable it to increase the budget and finances. It is always charged . Are exempt import of goods , sales of prescription drugs, bread, water supply, and the goods when exported from the island except on the Dutch side that remains taxable.

Carol_Hill #195774 05/24/2019 08:51 AM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,821
Likes: 2
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,821
Likes: 2
TGCA is a “General Turnover Tax” that is only in French St. Martin and is pegged at 4%. This is similar to the VAT on the mainland of France. It is applied to retail goods and services.


Be Happy! Simply because you deserve to be. 😁
Bip #195775 05/24/2019 08:52 AM
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 84,002
Likes: 4
Traveler
OP Offline
Traveler
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 84,002
Likes: 4
Huh. I have never seen it on a menu before, as not being included in the price. Maybe I just never paid attention to it before? Or restaurants are now not including it, when they used to before?


Carol Hill
Carol_Hill #195806 05/24/2019 01:33 PM
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 19,498
Likes: 4
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 19,498
Likes: 4
Has nothing to due with the SC.

Carol_Hill #195809 05/24/2019 02:28 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,821
Likes: 2
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,821
Likes: 2
It is and has been normally included in the pricing. Businesses that are now showing it as a separate line item are trying to bump up their pricing while blaming it on outside forces. They are trying to bump their bottom line by the 4% and not get blamed for that change. Be careful, some might even list as higher than 4%.


Be Happy! Simply because you deserve to be. 😁
Bip #195826 05/24/2019 04:11 PM
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,411
Tom Offline
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,411
I sometimes grow weary of the trickery that some businesses employ to increase their bottom line profits. My personal response to this type of tactic is to stop doing business with them and spread the word on sites like TTOL. When others are better informed they can make better choices.
IMHO there are lots of creative ways to generate additional sales without resorting to unethical actions.
Sorry for the sermon but after spending all of my career in sales and marketing I still remember the difference between right and wrong, without the questionable "spin".

Carol_Hill #195827 05/24/2019 04:18 PM
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 734
B
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
B
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 734
I remember the conversation we had regarding people saying that in restaurants on the French side they add 15% service charge. Well I have never seen this but started noticing that it applies more to the Dutch side as twice eaten where it’s been added....

Carol_Hill #195831 05/24/2019 04:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 763
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 763
From a post on TTOL in 2015:

Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
The TGCA is a tax applicable on the entire territory of the Community of St. Martin in the French West Indies since August 1, 2010. It is due to local economic operations , including sales and services. Are involved all stakeholders in the economy of the island, businesses, commerce and the professions. The amount of 4% on sales is donated to the Community in order to enable it to increase the budget and finances. It is always charged . Are exempt import of goods , sales of prescription drugs, bread, water supply, and the goods when exported from the island except on the Dutch side that remains taxable.


For the entire thread, see: 2015 post

I hope this helps.


--ChiTownHarry
bdeeley #195849 05/24/2019 07:28 PM
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 84,002
Likes: 4
Traveler
OP Offline
Traveler
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 84,002
Likes: 4
bdeely--thanks. I didn't remember it being a separate item on the bill before..


Carol Hill
Carol_Hill #308802 11/13/2023 11:45 AM
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 4,761
Likes: 3
kim Offline
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 4,761
Likes: 3
Bumping an old thread as it’s the same question. So this has zero to do with tipping? So it means leave more? Even more confused. B

Attached Images
IMG_2588.jpeg
kim #308803 11/13/2023 12:11 PM
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 84,002
Likes: 4
Traveler
OP Offline
Traveler
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 84,002
Likes: 4
Correct. It is a tax on the French side. It's usually a line item on a bill now. So it's already on your bill when you receive it. Just pay whatever the bill says and add whatever small amount you want, for an actual tip.


Carol Hill
Carol_Hill #308804 11/13/2023 12:45 PM
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 4,761
Likes: 3
kim Offline
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 4,761
Likes: 3
Right. But it says “non comprise” doesn’t that mean it hasn’t been added? Insinuating to leave more? This just caught me off guard.

kim #308805 11/13/2023 12:49 PM
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 725
Likes: 3
C
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
C
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 725
Likes: 3
Originally Posted by kim
Right. But it says “non comprise” doesn’t that mean it hasn’t been added? Insinuating to leave more? This just caught me off guard.


No, it just means that when they sum up your bill, they will bottom line the 4% tax. They will charge it. It means the menu prices don't include tax.

cruzer #308806 11/13/2023 01:15 PM
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 84,002
Likes: 4
Traveler
OP Offline
Traveler
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 84,002
Likes: 4
cruzer--exactly correct. There will be a line item on your bill for it. It used to be that restaurants on the French side would include it in their prices. Now, they give you a notation that it is not included in their prices. Nothing to do with tipping at all. It is a form of price inflation I suppose, but it is a legitimate tax.


Carol Hill
cruzer #308808 11/13/2023 02:40 PM
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 4,761
Likes: 3
kim Offline
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 4,761
Likes: 3
Ah ok!!! Thank you!!

Carol_Hill #308838 11/14/2023 12:39 PM
Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 18
L
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
L
Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 18
"TGCA not included" probably means that the restaurant's prices don't include the TGCA (Taxe sur la Gestion des Concessions Aéroportuaires), which is an airport concession tax in St. Martin. So, just keep in mind that you might have to pay this tax on top of your meal when you dine there.

Lucid #308840 11/14/2023 12:53 PM
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 84,002
Likes: 4
Traveler
OP Offline
Traveler
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 84,002
Likes: 4
Lucid--NO, TGCA is not an 'airport concession tax'. Has nothing to do with airports, per se.


Carol Hill
Carol_Hill #308842 11/14/2023 01:20 PM
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 19,498
Likes: 4
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 19,498
Likes: 4
If you google it here is what comes up:
'
TGCA
Taiwan General Contractors Association

1

TGCA
Taiwan Guidance and Counseling Association

1

TGCA
Texas Girls Coaches Association
Texas, Coaching, Girl

1

TGCA
Texas Grocery & Convenience Association

1

TGCA
Texas Grocery and Convenience Association

1

TGCA
Texas Gun Collectors Association
Collector, Gun, Texas

1

TGCA
The Genome Customization Award

1

TGCA
Traditional Gypsy Cob Association
Gypsy, Horse, Stallion

1

TGCA
Transportable Group Control Approach

1

TGCA
Triple Grand Champion Alter'
I'm sure there are more.
dance

bdeeley #308845 11/14/2023 01:40 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,821
Likes: 2
Traveler
Offline
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,821
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by bdeeley
TGCA is a “General Turnover Tax” that is only in French St. Martin and is pegged at 4%. This is similar to the VAT on the mainland of France. It is applied to retail goods and services.



If you did a more focused search on google, such as "tgca sxm" you would get relevant results


Be Happy! Simply because you deserve to be. 😁

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5