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Daily Herald story

Wow, sprayed with disinfectant?? Mercy..

And an editorial Link

Yikes.

SXM is VERY serious about keeping safe from any spread of CIVOD-19.

That is NOT SERIOUS, that is f*NG STUPID.

Yowzers! Insulting and ineffective!

A bridge too far.

Then why are the police officers not being sprayed?? They see the very same people.

Can't fix stupid

Why not meet with them by just by phone or camera while in the prison?

It not as crazy as it sounds. When some flights land in Australia, insecticide disinfectant is sprayed throughout the cabin before the passengers are allowed off the plane. They considering Hawaii, SE Asia, Central and South America, and Africa to be high risk areas. Random flights from other countries are sprayed as well. I know they don't directly spray people, but in aircraft cabin, there is not much area for the spray to disperse.

When we landed in the Galapagos, the overhead bins were sprayed before we deplaned, and we walked through spongy disinfectants that killed anything on our shoes before we entered the airport. But our bodies were not sprayed with anything, and the mist that sprayed the bins didn't contact us. A completely different process.

Biglar--Sorry, you don't understand attorney client privilege and the ability to meet with your client IN PERSON. An occasional visit that way, yes, perhaps, in an exigent circumstance. This is NOT it.

Not sure it's effective, but.... the closest beach to Phoenix isn't San Diego, it's former fishing village in Mexico called Puerto Penasco. It's grown up now and a fun place to go. They are re-opening this weekend. In order to cross the border, you have to go thru a "Sanitation Tunnel". I've been going to Puerto Penasco for +40 years and we're always entertained by some of the ideas the Mexican authorities have come up with over the years to mitigate some of the influences from the north - some very serious, some comical.
Here's a link to a story on the tunnel in use in Nogales, Sonora south of Tucson -

Sanitation Tunnel

This is to kill insects and parasites, not viruses.

Correct, I was just mentioning something that was similiar.

I hope this doesn't start an "ideological war", but from what I get from the most recent data is Covid-19 is spread mostly through the air. So seeing things like Las Vegas wiping down the one armed bandits makes me shake my head.

I agree, but I think a lot of the actions being taken are to make skittish people feel more comfortable. There's certainly no harm done by keeping surfaces squeaky clean!

Wiping surfaces with a disinfectant is totally logical...someone with the virus sneezes onto a hard surface (e.g. one arm bandit) the virus is there for a few hours. You walk up, drop your coin, pull the lever, you now have the virus on your fingers. You rub your eyes. You transfer the virus to your eyes.

Seems to be a pretty straight forward science based factoid.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection/prevention-risks.html?&utm_campaign=gc-hc-sc-coronavirus2021-ao-2021-0005-10020125402&utm_medium=search&utm_source=google-ads-107800103024&utm_content=text-en-434525470062&utm_term=%2Bcovid-19

How coronavirus spreads
Human coronaviruses cause infections of the nose, throat and lungs. They are most commonly spread from an infected person through:

1. respiratory droplets generated when you cough or sneeze
2. close, prolonged personal contact, such as touching or shaking hands
3. touching something with the virus on it, then touching your mouth, nose or eyes before washing your hands
Current evidence suggests person-to-person spread is efficient when there is close contact.

Survival of coronaviruses on surfaces
It is not certain how long COVID-19 survives on surfaces, but it seems to behave like other coronaviruses. Preliminary information on COVID-19 suggests that the virus may persist on surfaces for a few hours or up to several days depending on different conditions, such as:
temperature
type of surface
humidity of the environment
Surfaces frequently touched with hands are most likely to be contaminated, including:

tables
handrails
doorknobs
electronics
countertops
light switches
faucet handles
cabinet handles
elevator buttons

Cleaning
Coronaviruses are one of the easiest types of viruses to kill with the appropriate disinfectant product when used according to the label directions. Health Canada has published a list of hard surface disinfectants that are likely to be effective for use against COVID-19.

Although they do not claim to kill COVID-19, cleaners can play a role in limiting the transfer of microorganisms. Health Canada recommends cleaning high-touch hard surfaces often, using either regular household cleaners or diluted bleach according to the label directions. This bleach solution should be prepared according to the instructions on the label or in a ratio of 250 mL (1 cup) of water per 5 mL (1 teaspoon) of bleach. Directions are based on bleach that is 5% sodium hypochlorite, to give a 0.1% sodium hypochlorite solution. Never mix bleach with other chemical products and use it in a well-ventilated area. Special precautions must be used when cleaning with bleach to avoid serious incidents.

These surfaces include:

toilets
phones
electronics
door handles
bedside tables
television remotes
Refer to the guidance on cleaning and disinfecting public spaces for more information.

Wearing masks or face coverings
Medical masks, including surgical, medical procedure face masks and respirators (like N95 masks), must be kept for health care workers and others providing direct care to COVID-19 patients.

Wearing a non-medical mask or face covering while out in public is recommended for periods of time when it is not possible to consistently maintain a 2-metre physical distance from others, particularly in crowded public settings, such as:

stores
shopping areas
public transportation
Public health officials will make recommendations based on a number of factors, including the rates of infection and/or transmission in the community. Recommendations may vary from location to location.

If you do choose to wear one, refer to the:

guidelines on wearing non-medical masks and how to make your own
COVID-19 Special Advisory Committee's recommendations on the use of non-medical cloth masks or face coverings in community settings
Masks alone will not prevent the spread of COVID-19. You must consistently and strictly adhere to good hygiene and public health measures, including frequent hand washing and physical (social) distancing.

Risks of getting coronavirus
COVID-19 is a serious health threat, and the situation is evolving daily. The risk will vary between and within communities, but given the increasing number of cases in Canada, the risk to Canadians is considered high.

This does not mean that all Canadians will get the disease. It means that there is already a significant impact on our health care system. If we do not flatten the epidemic curve now, the increase of COVID-19 cases could impact health care resources available to Canadians.

The risk for COVID-19 may be increased for certain settings such as:

cruise ships
crowded areas (such as public transit and shopping centres)
gatherings (spiritual and cultural settings, theatres, sports arenas, festivals and conferences)

This is an interesting way to disinfect.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/17/...ntl/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

Didn’t Antigua do something like this years ago for arriving flights? I only remember it happening once or twice and in honesty, I think we deplaned and they then sprayed the interior of the plane before we or the new passengers were allowed back on board. I don’t recall them actually spraying the interior but I do remember the smell after we boarded and it wasn’t great. I would say this was very early 80s or there about and then AA gave Antigua it’s own flight. It was a long, long time ago and I think it might have been for insect control but that, too, has a question mark to it.

Why is disinfecting a plane so new now. Weren't they supposed to be cleaning and doing that all along between flights.

Years ago it was standard practice to spray insecticide in aircraft; had nothing to do with disinfection.

We were on Liat one time between SXM and another small island and they announced they were going to 'disinfect" the plane. Nothing but a can of aerosol insecticide spayed lightly through the cabin.

Update
https://www.thedailyherald.sx/islands/lawyers-end-strike-as-spray-measure-has-been-called-off

Surprised it took this long for them to change that policy, but good to see, regardless.

While, of course, anything to reduce the possibility of infection should be utilized, my point was, as you can see from one of the above postings, it is the last way of infection mentioned, and I think SOME people might get a false sense of safety from seeing surfaces cleaned. I know some of you understood what I was trying to say.