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Re: Sailboat with or without A/C
[Re: tkv64]
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08/29/2016 03:33 PM
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Hi Tami The boat we sail on is an older mono without A/C You will be sailing in May / June which can be gorgeous with great breeze or rainy , hot and humid . Not nice with all the hatches closed at night . Our boat had great ventilation if there is no rain but can get very hot if weather necessitates us to close her up . We typically choose anchorages with great breeze and anchor outside the mooring field . We have travelled late May early June for the past four years and have been fine . I would take done battery operated fans with you and baby powder to help feel dry if lots of humidity and rain . That's a lot of extra money for A/C .... I would take my chances ...
Hope that helps a bit.... Oh and by the way ... I am also 52
Kim
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Re: Sailboat with or without A/C
[Re: JustBS]
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08/29/2016 05:02 PM
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From experience, if there are plus size ppl in your party, AC may be required.
Woof woof!
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Re: Sailboat with or without A/C
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08/29/2016 05:31 PM
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I'm also 52.
Really wished for A/C on our last Jun/July BVI cruise.
And Thailand in April... that was brutal without.
M4000 "Lio Kai"
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Re: Sailboat with or without A/C
[Re: tkv64]
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08/29/2016 06:21 PM
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You already seem to know that you can't sleep without a/c, which is the case for me, for sure. Check into more options for boats, including chartering for a shorter period of time, with a/c.. 6 to 8 weeks is an awfully long time to potentially be very uncomfortable.
Carol Hill
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Re: Sailboat with or without A/C
[Re: tkv64]
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08/29/2016 07:25 PM
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The other reasonable option that might fall in between would be a boat with shore power A/C. This is what ours has and we've spent nights both on and off the dock. The nice part is that when we want/need it, we can have it.
Matt
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Re: Sailboat with or without A/C
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08/30/2016 03:08 PM
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It's funny to me to read the overwhelming responses in favor of AC. If I was sailing in summer (June - Sept) I would want AC. But I regularly sail in the Spring, late Fall, and Winter and only use my AC when I am at the dock. It is very rare for me to use the AC while at anchor or on a mooring. I can count the number of times on one hand in over 150 days/nights in the last few years.
s/v Snow Dog - Leopard 46
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Re: Sailboat with or without A/C
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08/30/2016 03:17 PM
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Original poster was talking about sailing 6 to 8 weeks, starting in April. 8 weeks from April puts you into June..
Carol Hill
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Re: Sailboat with or without A/C
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08/30/2016 03:29 PM
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snowdog said: It's funny to me to read the overwhelming responses in favor of AC. If I was sailing in summer (June - Sept) I would want AC. But I regularly sail in the Spring, late Fall, and Winter and only use my AC when I am at the dock. It is very rare for me to use the AC while at anchor or on a mooring. I can count the number of times on one hand in over 150 days/nights in the last few years. The variables are huge. It depends on the ventilation the boat offers and the location your boat ends up for the night. Rain and humidity can come anytime. Age, weight, diet, and alcohol can also come into play. I have also notice with each year that goes by more guests are concerned with leaving the entire boat wide open all night long. For me most of the boats have more hatches and ports than ever. I hate the rain dance to close all the hatches and ports. We can and have done great without AC many times. We do look for boats with generators, ac, and watermakers. If they work we use them heavily. If they turn out to be troubled we do just fine without them. If you live in a world at home with 24/7 closed windows and AC with little exposure to real outside heat in your home life the 24/7 heat of the Carribean can be a shock to many. If you live in a warm climate and play 18 holes of golf each weekend or sail 2.5 days a week the impact may not be as much.
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Re: Sailboat with or without A/C
[Re: tkv64]
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08/30/2016 04:08 PM
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tkv64 said: You are correct... I should have made that clear. The $10k less boat is a 41', and the one with the generator, A/C, and thruster is a 45'. I'm not sure if for just the two of us we really need that large of a boat, but it seems you have to go big down there to get the A/C & gen Probably not too difficult to find a boat less than about 43 feet with dockside AC. But it's going to be tough to find a boat that size that has a generator. There just isn't room for one in a 3 cabin boat that size (which will be the typical configuration). So I think you have three choices really - (a) boat without AC or generator, (b) dockside AC (i.e., no generator), and (c) AC+genny. For just the two of you reality is that a boat around 40 feet will be just fine and will be the most economical. But finding a 40 with genny+ac might be challenging. You will likely need to increase boat size. In my experience the Ac+genny is a $500/week list price option vs. the same boat without it. I have no experience chartering a boat for that long of a period (so obviously infinitely qualified for this forum!) but I would imagine you will need to make a decision quickly as the choices for boats for a 6-8 week period starting in April will be increasingly small due to Easter/spring break when a large part of the fleet will be out on the water. Maybe what you should consider instead is to charter starting towards the end of June - you would get (a) low season pricing which is not only significantly cheaper but also includes 10 days for the price of 7, and (b) probably a better selection of boats. Then pick up a boat with genny+ac which I'm sure you won't regret.
Life's short - sail more!
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Re: Sailboat with or without A/C
[Re: sail2wind]
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08/30/2016 06:53 PM
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tkv64 - Evan say's a 40 with genny and AC is no problem. So I withdraw my earlier comments - there are apparently 40 footers out there with the equipment. Maybe Evan can point you to some.
As you find those boats please tell us where you find them. I'm sure there are others on the forum that would like to have the option to rent a 40 with genny+ac.
Life's short - sail more!
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Re: Sailboat with or without A/C
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08/30/2016 08:24 PM
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There may be personally owned 40's like Evan's with genset, but I am pretty sure there are not many charter monos that size with them.
Matt
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Re: Sailboat with or without A/C
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08/30/2016 08:48 PM
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I picked this up from CYOA.... "If your boat has a generator, you will need to add about three quarters of a gallon, per generator hour, to your total. Most boats with generators return with about 60 hours on the generator – more if you run the generator all day and all night to enjoy the air conditioning." 60 hours for something you do not need?
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Re: Sailboat with or without A/C
[Re: maytrix]
#106373
08/31/2016 06:23 AM
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maytrix said: There may be personally owned 40's like Evan's with genset, but I am pretty sure there are not many charter monos that size with them. This is exactly right. Even in our fleet at CYOA where every boat has at least dockside air you have to go to 45 feet in a mono hull to get a genset. Most charter boats of 40 feet plus are three cabin layouts and putting a genset in a 39 to 43 three cabin is tough. Jay
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