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Re: Sailboat with or without A/C
[Re: StormJib]
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08/31/2016 12:16 PM
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StormJib said:I picked this up from CYOA.... "If your boat has a generator, you will need to add about three quarters of a gallon, per generator hour, to your total. Most boats with generators return with about 60 hours on the generator – more if you run the generator all day and all night to enjoy the air conditioning." 60 hours for something you do not need? in your opinion a generator with a 3000 KW inverter/90 amp charger tops off the batteries much faster then the Yanmar. My boat is a 2 cabin, with an oversized engine room
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Re: Sailboat with or without A/C
[Re: sail2wind]
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08/31/2016 01:33 PM
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sail2wind said: maybe I shouldn't sell? <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" /> No you shouldn't, you should keep it and let your Colorado brethren use it for free! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Clapping.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Sailboat with or without A/C
[Re: sail2wind]
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08/31/2016 01:40 PM
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sail2wind said:StormJib said:I picked this up from CYOA.... "If your boat has a generator, you will need to add about three quarters of a gallon, per generator hour, to your total. Most boats with generators return with about 60 hours on the generator – more if you run the generator all day and all night to enjoy the air conditioning." 60 hours for something you do not need? in your opinion a generator with a 3000 KW inverter/90 amp charger tops off the batteries much faster then the Yanmar. My boat is a 2 cabin, with an oversized engine room My point is if the average charterer is now starting and listening to the generator run an average of 60 hours per charter. The average CYOA charter group at least thinks they "need" the generator/ac. At 60 hours the generator and ac may be the most used equipment on the boat. What else gets 60 hours of use per charter? Here is the original question in case we forgot: Sailboat with or without A/CWe're looking at bareboating for 6-8 weeks beginning mid April. The sailboats that have been offered do not have A/C, except for one option. However, it's significantly more expensive -about $10K more. Just wondering what we can expect in regards to sleeping at night. I'm 52, and hot weather + sleeping= no sleep. Thanks- Tami
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Re: Sailboat with or without A/C
[Re: tkv64]
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08/31/2016 01:57 PM
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The definitely consider shore power.
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Re: Sailboat with or without A/C
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08/31/2016 04:04 PM
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tkv64 said: Hi Matt.... I've been working with Seabattical and really enjoy Ron. The problem is, they do have a limited number of boats. A 06 41' Hunter with thruster, a '16 40' Elan without thruster and a 47' with A/C & generator, but no thrusters. What is the boat you're thinking of putting in the pool with them? If you are going to be on a boat for more than a few days you do not need any bow thruster. You will and should learn how to steer and control the boat. You should never find and do not need anything like a bow thruster on a twin engine bareboat charter cat. The wide beam separating the twin engines will give you all the control you need. The only exception to any of that would be very crowded and tight slips that you should not see regularly on a BVI charter. With more than six weeks if you will have the time to make a second pass or two at a mooring ball. Just take it slow until you are comfortable steering and stopping the boat.
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Re: Sailboat with or without A/C
[Re: Twanger]
#106389
09/01/2016 11:31 AM
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We too use the AC a fair amount. On our last trip of 9 nights on a mono we racked up 100 generator hours. Sleeping is certainly a big part of it. But we also cook a fair amount on the boat. My wife does most of the cooking (not because I'm a bigot but because she does it better) and when we're not running the AC she refers to the kitchen as "hells kitchen". It's that hot. With the hatches open. The other benefit is that it dries the boat out. We take our towels - which will at best be merely damp hanging on the lifelines by morning - inside for the night and hang them up. By morning everything is nice and dry. We like that.
I can confirm the fuel usage. We calculated 1/3 gallon/hr.
My wife is from GA. Grew up without AC. And even she thinks it's hot without it. Do you "need" AC? Well... no. I'm sure you can survive without it just fine. And to a large degree it will depend on your tolerance for heat. If you like things hot, a boat with the hatches closed because it's raining will make you very happy.
Will AC likely make your trip more pleasant - no doubt.
Life's short - sail more!
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